{"id":723623,"date":"2023-12-14T09:34:23","date_gmt":"2023-12-14T09:34:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/?p=723623"},"modified":"2023-12-19T13:31:24","modified_gmt":"2023-12-19T13:31:24","slug":"aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh","title":{"rendered":"AJ Climate Champions podcast: \u2018I\u2019m no longer the wood weirdo,\u2019 says Andrew Waugh"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u2018I want to transform the whole industry,\u2019 says Waugh, founding director of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/architects\/waugh-thistleton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Waugh Thistleton<\/a>, which was recently named Practice of the Year at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-architecture-awards\">AJ Architecture Awards<\/a>. Waugh explains why tall buildings have no place in sustainable cities of the future, how building housing with timber can reduce its carbon burden by as much as 75 per cent, and why we should stop building basements (they are up to five times as carbon-intensive as upper floors).<\/p>\n<p>Waugh advocates building with timber primarily as a low-carbon alternative to concrete and steel, rather than for aesthetic reasons. He shares recent research that clarifies end-of-life alternatives for timber that are not incineration or landfill. He makes it clear that current subsidies that encourage burning of timber for biomass must be revamped to support use of UK-grown timber for construction.<\/p>\n<p>This episode was recorded the day after Andrew took co-hosts Hattie and George on a tour through WaughThistleton\u2019s recently completed Black &amp; White Building in Shoreditch. With the exception of its basement, the building is all timber: structure, core, floors, cladding and brise-soleil. Waugh describes where the timber was sourced and says that the transport footprint of timber is a relatively minor consideration.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, Waugh explains why he recently withdrew from the Architects Declare steering group.<\/p>\n<p>AJ Climate Champions is hosted by Hattie Hartman and George Morgan. To catch up on all episodes, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/podcasts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Find Climate Champions on your favourite podcast app: subscribe via <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/1SFHoLtacs5fp1rOgENDl9?si=c0Rl25WCQpGm8tpvobBOdw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Spotify<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/climate-champions-with-hattie-hartman\/id1536913247\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.google.com\/feed\/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL2FyY2hpdGVjdHNqb3VybmFsL2ZlZWQueG1s?sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjm6pr3sObsAhUUcxoKHUBbBiAQ4aUDegQIARAD&amp;hl=en-CH\">Google Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deezer.com\/us\/show\/1882312\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Deezer<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"https:\/\/architectsjournal.podbean.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Podbean<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px); height: 240px;\" title=\"AJ Climate Champions\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=ttiyg-95f78a-pbblog-playlist&amp;share=0&amp;download=1&amp;rtl=0&amp;fonts=Arial&amp;skin=1&amp;font-color=auto&amp;logo_link=episode_page&amp;order=episodic&amp;limit=1&amp;filter=all&amp;ss=8589a91146abd9493c961e6dc77d840d&amp;btn-skin=7&amp;size=240\" width=\"100%\" height=\"240\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\">About Andrew Waugh<strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Andrew Waugh is founder and director of 30-strong WaughThistleton Architects, a practice he cofounded with Anthony Thistleton in 1997. He has been building with cross-laminated timber long before the climate emergency made timber the material of choice for many. He has lectured extensively in North America and across Europe on the greater use of timber in buildings.<\/p>\n<p>Andrew was a member of the Architects Declare steering group from 2019 to 2023.<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\">Projects and resources mentioned in this episode<\/h3>\n<p>Waugh Thistleton &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/waugh-thistleton-named-architect-of-the-year-in-aj-architecture-awards-2023\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Architect of the Year<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ajbuildingslibrary.co.uk\/projects\/display\/id\/2791\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Murray Grove<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/buildings\/high-density-low-carbon-dalston-works-by-waugh-thistleton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dalston Works<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/buildings\/timber-all-the-way-the-black-white-building-by-waugh-thistleton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Black &amp; White Building<\/a><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_688602\" class=\" wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1034px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-688602 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.rt.emap.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2023\/02\/17104902\/4_TOG_TheBlackWhiteBuilding_ArchitectureWTA_InteriorsDaytrip_PhotographyJakeCurtis_0447-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Black &amp; White Building<\/p>\n\t<p class=\"inline_image_source\" style=\"max-width: 1034px;\">Source:Jake Curtis<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/timberdevelopment.uk\/resources\/timber-typologies\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Timber Typologies<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.build-in-wood.eu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EU Horizon Build in Wood<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/woodcircles.eu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EU Horizon woodcircles<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/builtbn.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Built by Nature<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/timberdevelopment.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TDUK<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/waughthistleton.com\/new-model-building\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The New Model Building<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thinkwood.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Think-Wood-Publication-100-Projects-UK-CLT.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">U S Department of Agriculture\/Forestry Service<\/a> \u2013 CLT 100 UK PROJECTS<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/builtbn.org\/solutions\/genzero-inspired-primary-school-prototype\/124\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Built by Nature \u2013 GenZero primary school prototype<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.laudesfoundation.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Laudes Foundation<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lakanal_House_fire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lakanal House<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsdeclare.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Architects Declare<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"factfile\">\n<p><span class=\"ui-provider ej bid bie bif big bih bii bij bik bil bim bin bio bip biq bir bis bit biu biv biw bix biy biz bja bjb bjc bjd bje bjf bjg bjh bji bjj bjk\" dir=\"ltr\">A previous version of this podcast mistakenly suggested that Waugh Thistleton had withdrawn from Architects Declare. In fact, Andrew Waugh withdrew from the Architects Declare steering group in May on an individual basis and Waugh Thistleton remains a member of Architects Declare. We apologise for any confusion.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\">With support from<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.americanhardwood.org\/?utm_source=online&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=Architectsjournal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-723629 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.rt.emap.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2023\/12\/12125721\/AHEC-logo_horizontal_BLACK-300x146.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"146\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.rt.emap.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2023\/12\/12125721\/AHEC-logo_horizontal_BLACK-300x146.png 300w, https:\/\/cdn.rt.emap.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2023\/12\/12125721\/AHEC-logo_horizontal_BLACK-230x112.png 230w, https:\/\/cdn.rt.emap.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2023\/12\/12125721\/AHEC-logo_horizontal_BLACK-150x73.png 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\">Credits<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Climate Champions is produced in association with ACAN, the Architects\u2019 Climate Action Network<br \/>\nPodcast produced and edited by Simon Aldous<br \/>\nMusic:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/edmilsondopifano\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Edmilson do P\u00edfano<\/a>, Forr\u00f3 de dois Amigos. Interpretation:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/tanakadopife\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Felipe Tanaka<\/a>\u00a0e banda Balaio de Bai\u00e3o<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Waugh explains how building with timber can address industry transformation at scale<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":723624,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_oasis_is_in_workflow":0,"_oasis_original":0,"ep_exclude_from_search":false},"categories":[681],"tags":[5777,47665,6146,5547,2158],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>AJ Climate Champions podcast: \u2018I\u2019m no longer the wood weirdo,\u2019 says Andrew Waugh<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Waugh explains how building with timber can address industry transformation at scale\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"AJ Climate Champions podcast: \u2018I\u2019m no longer the wood weirdo,\u2019 says Andrew Waugh\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Waugh explains how building with timber can address industry transformation at scale\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"The Architects\u2019 Journal\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2023-12-14T09:34:23+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2023-12-19T13:31:24+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/cdn.rt.emap.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2023\/12\/12124556\/STORIES_ANDREW-WAUGH-1024x683.png\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1024\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"683\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"AJ Contributor\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"AJ Contributor\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Estimated reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"3 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh\",\"name\":\"AJ Climate Champions podcast: \u2018I\u2019m no longer the wood weirdo,\u2019 says Andrew Waugh\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2023-12-14T09:34:23+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2023-12-19T13:31:24+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/#\/schema\/person\/7b17477be70ec134f8063c756644a58f\"},\"description\":\"Waugh explains how building with timber can address industry transformation at scale\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-GB\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/news\/aj-climate-champions-podcast-im-no-longer-the-wood-weirdo-says-andrew-waugh#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"AJ Climate Champions podcast: \u2018I\u2019m no longer the wood weirdo,\u2019 says Andrew Waugh\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.architectsjournal.co.uk\/\",\"name\":\"The Architects\u2019 Journal\",\"description\":\"Architecture News &amp; 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